Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

02/16/2012 01:00 PM House MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ HJR 34 COAST GUARD ICEBREAKERS & ARCTIC BASE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 34(MLV) Out of Committee
*+ HB 316 MILITARY FACILITY ZONES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
          HJR 34-COAST GUARD ICEBREAKERS & ARCTIC BASE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:08:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMPSON announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                               
would be HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 34, Urging the United States                                                               
Congress to  fund all  the facilities  and vessels  necessary for                                                               
the United  States Coast  Guard to  fulfill its  Arctic missions,                                                               
including icebreakers and an Arctic Coast Guard base.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:08:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB  HERRON, Alaska State  Legislature, introduced                                                               
HJR 34,  as sponsor.   Representative Herron called  attention to                                                               
the supporting  documents provided in  the committee packet.   He                                                               
said the resolution  is the result of the work  Alaskans put into                                                               
the Alaska  Northern Waters Task Force,  including testimony from                                                               
throughout the  state.   The task force  concluded that  the U.S.                                                               
Coast  Guard needs  an Arctic-capable  icebreaker  and a  forward                                                               
base  located closer  to  the  Arctic than  the  current base  at                                                               
Kodiak.  The  base at Kodiak is valuable to  the U.S., however, a                                                               
base near  Nome or Barrow  would protect the interests  of Alaska                                                               
and the nation.   The task force found there  is increased Arctic                                                               
activity, thus an icebreaker and  an Arctic base would enable the                                                               
responsible development  of resources, foster  maritime commerce,                                                               
safeguard   Arctic  residents   and  their   ecosystems,  provide                                                               
emergency  and disaster  preparedness and  response, and  protect                                                               
sovereignty.   Representative Herron  pointed out that  Alaska is                                                               
the Arctic state, and it and  the Coast Guard "need the tools" to                                                               
address the  important resources  there; even nations  without an                                                               
Arctic border are building icebreakers.    He said the supporting                                                               
documents were provided by the  lieutenant governor of Alaska and                                                               
others, and more expert testimony  will follow this introduction.                                                               
There is a zero fiscal note  attached, and the resolution will be                                                               
further  vetted by  the House  State Affairs  Standing Committee.                                                               
He  advised   that  U.S.  Senator  Lisa   Murkowski  has  invited                                                               
legislators  and  others to  attend  a  hearing of  the  Homeland                                                               
Security Subcommittee, U. S.  Senate Committee on Appropriations,                                                               
in Washington, D.C.,  on 3/8/12.  Passage of  the resolution will                                                               
demonstrate  serious  support  in   Alaska  for  the  funding  of                                                               
icebreakers and  facilities to enhance  the Coast  Guard presence                                                               
in the Arctic.  Recent events  on the seas highlight the need for                                                               
the Coast Guard to be an important aspect of life in Alaska.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:14:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMPSON opened public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:14:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ED PAGE,  Executive Director, Marine Exchange  of Alaska ("marine                                                               
exchange"), said the  marine exchange is supported  by the state,                                                               
the Coast  Guard, and the  maritime industry to provide  a marine                                                               
tracking system.   As personal history, he noted  he retired from                                                               
the Coast  Guard 11 years ago  as an officer with  service on the                                                               
East and West  Coasts.  Mr. Page advised that  since World War II                                                               
the Coast  Guard has provided  icebreaking support for  the Great                                                               
Lakes and  for New York  Harbor, but not for  Alaska.    His last                                                               
tour  in the  Coast  Guard  was as  Chief  of  Marine Safety  and                                                               
Environmental  Protection for  Alaska  Region, but  at that  time                                                               
"the  Arctic wasn't  on our  radar screen  [be]cause nothing  was                                                               
happening."   Since  then, the  marine  exchange vessel  tracking                                                               
system  has revealed  that passage  in the  Arctic has  increased                                                               
dramatically, by cruise ships,  Chinese icebreakers, cargo ships,                                                               
tugs  and  barges,  supply  vessels,   and  tankers  from  Russia                                                               
traveling to the  Far East.  Clearly,  now there is a  need for a                                                               
U.S. presence  to establish sovereignty, emergency  response, and                                                               
oversight   of   compliance   with   safety   and   environmental                                                               
regulations.     Unfortunately,   Coast  Guard   icebreakers  are                                                               
reaching the  end of their  lifespans, even though  activities in                                                               
the Arctic  are national  issues and  affect the  entire country.                                                               
The Coast Guard  is recognized worldwide as a  leader in maritime                                                               
safety  and   environmental  protection,  however,   its  present                                                               
capability  in  the  Arctic  is  limited.   Mr.  Page  urged  for                                                               
continued support  from the state for  the U.S. to provide  for a                                                               
Coast Guard presence as required.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:18:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMPSON   asked  what  Coast  Guard   icebreakers  are                                                               
available if needed on the Arctic coast.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PAGE said  the  U.S.  Coast Guard  Cutter  (USCGC) Healy  is                                                               
operational and  suitable, and there  are smaller  icebreakers on                                                               
the East Coast.  However,  the USCGC Healy was designed primarily                                                               
as a  research vessel with  icebreaking capabilities.    Although                                                               
access to McMurdo Station in  Antarctica is an important mission,                                                               
he  opined the  Arctic mission  is  more pressing,  and the  more                                                               
appropriate place to  stage icebreakers.  In  further response to                                                               
Co-Chair  Thompson, he  said USCGC  Healy is  in Seattle  at this                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLER asked  what  the capabilities  of a  fully                                                               
equipped icebreaker would be.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:20:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAGE advised  a fully equipped icebreaker would  have a stern                                                               
configured so it  could back up in ice, and  it would have larger                                                               
displacement and  greater horsepower than  the USCGC Healy.   The                                                               
legacy icebreakers like the USCGC  Polar Star and USCGC Polar Sea                                                               
have more horsepower and different hull configurations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER asked how long  it would take an icebreaker                                                               
to get from Kodiak to the Arctic.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAGE  estimated one week,  depending on the thickness  of the                                                               
ice.  In further response  to Representative Miller, he confirmed                                                               
that  the response  would take  days, unless  the icebreaker  was                                                               
already in the Arctic.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:22:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LYNN   asked   several   questions   about   the                                                               
capabilities of an icebreaker.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAGE  said he  has limited  knowledge, but  the design  of an                                                               
icebreaker involves the thickness and  design of the hull so that                                                               
it rides  on top of  the ice.   Icebreakers have  ballast systems                                                               
that move  water from  the stern  to the  bow and  propellers and                                                               
steering gear that  are well protected from ice,  along with more                                                               
power  and  displacement  to  break  thicker  ice.    In  further                                                               
response  to Representative  Lynn, he  said the  USCGC Healy  can                                                               
travel through ice six feet thick.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:24:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  expressed her understanding  that military                                                               
organizations need  to prepare to  be ready for  difficult tasks.                                                               
She  asked  if   the  resolution  goes  far   enough  to  support                                                               
readiness.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAGE  said current  operations are  increasing -  350 vessels                                                               
travelled  through  the  Bering  Strait   last  year  -  and  the                                                               
resolution seeks to ensure that  Coast Guard capabilities grow as                                                               
the pace of  the traffic grows.   The Coast Guard plans  to go to                                                               
the Arctic this summer with  vessels and aircraft, and there will                                                               
be challenges  with equipment that  may not be designed  for cold                                                               
weather.   He  opined the  resolution identifies  a mission:  the                                                               
future need  for more facilities, capabilities,  and icebreakers.                                                               
In further response  to Representative Cissna, he said  HJR 34 is                                                               
a good beginning and an important endorsement from the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAGE,  in response to  Representative Lynn,  said helicopters                                                               
are standard equipment on icebreakers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:29:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFFREY GARRETT,  Maritime Affairs  Consultant and  retired Coast                                                               
Guard Rear  Admiral, provided a  brief history of  his experience                                                               
serving  in  the icebreaker  fleet.    He  served in  both  Polar                                                               
Regions, and  particularly in Arctic Alaska,  although during his                                                               
career most  operations were limited  to defense support  and the                                                               
support of  science programs.  However,  transformational changes                                                               
occurring  in  the  Arctic affect  the  Coast  Guard's  statutory                                                               
responsibilities.  More  recently, the Coast Guard  is seeking to                                                               
project  an   Arctic  presence   by  deploying   cutters,  boats,                                                               
aircraft,  and specialized  teams to  test equipment,  but during                                                               
this time of growing need,  its polar icebreaker capabilities are                                                               
drifting into "obsolescence."   He observed that  the Coast Guard                                                               
has been unable to deploy  an icebreaker for Arctic multi-mission                                                               
purposes for  over two years, and  plans for the USCGC  Polar Sea                                                               
have been canceled, forcing the  U.S. to charter a Russian vessel                                                               
to serve  bases in  Antarctica.  In  addition, the  USCGC Healy's                                                               
mission to deliver  fuel to Nome this year  disrupted its planned                                                               
maintenance and  operations schedule.  Mr.  Garrett commended HJR
34  and  Alaska's  strong  call for  the  federal  government  to                                                               
provide  the  Coast  Guard with  the  capabilities,  particularly                                                               
polar icebreakers, to meet national needs  in the Arctic.  He was                                                               
encouraged by the  2013 federal budget which  contains funding to                                                               
begin the  acquisition of an  icebreaker, and urged  quick action                                                               
to restore the  USCGC Polar Star and the USCGC  Polar Sea to full                                                               
operational capabilities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:32:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAWSON W. BRIGHAM, Ph.D., Distinguished  Professor of Geography &                                                               
Arctic  Policy, University  of Alaska  Fairbanks (UAF),  informed                                                               
the committee  he is a former  commander of the USCGC  Polar Sea.                                                               
Dr.  Brigham   raised  a  question  of   protocol  regarding  the                                                               
resolution,  noting that  the draft  form of  the resolution  was                                                               
sent  to Senior  Arctic Officials  of  the Arctic  states but  he                                                               
recommended that the resolution be  sent to the Foreign Ministers                                                               
of the Arctic states.  On  a more substantive matter, he observed                                                               
the last passage  of the resolution urges the U.  S. Congress and                                                               
the   administration  to   consider   all   options  to   finance                                                               
icebreakers,  including   charging  fees,  leasing,   and  giving                                                               
icebreakers  to   the  private   sector.    Dr.   Brigham  highly                                                               
recommended  that legislators  remove that  section because  user                                                               
fees have  no place  in the  operation of the  Coast Guard.   The                                                               
Congress and  administration should  fund the  Coast Guard  as it                                                               
does the  Navy or Air Force,  and ships should not  be leased for                                                               
use by the Coast Guard.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER called attention to  page 2, line 1, of the                                                               
resolution which read:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      WHEREAS ice cover in the Arctic is at historic lows,                                                                      
     and multiyear ice is decreasing;                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER asked whether this  loss of ice will affect                                                               
how  many icebreakers  are needed,  and if  this passage  applies                                                               
exclusively  to the  Arctic, or  also to  the Bering  and Chukchi                                                               
Seas.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. BRIGHAM said the multiyear  ice will disappear in the Arctic,                                                               
aiding navigation,  but the  retreat of ice  and the  thinning of                                                               
ice  has drawn  traffic  and  opened sea  lanes  leading to  more                                                               
responsibility   for   the   Coast  Guard   for   presence,   law                                                               
enforcement, security, and science.    It is a misconception that                                                               
less ice  reduces the need for  icebreakers when, in fact,  it is                                                               
the opposite  due to the greater  use of the whole  of the Arctic                                                               
Ocean.  This  is related to natural resource  development and the                                                               
longer season of open navigation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLER   surmised  a  less   than  fully-equipped                                                               
icebreaker may be designed for these conditions.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. BRIGHAM reminded  the committee the Bering Sea  to the Arctic                                                               
Ocean is fully  ice-covered so if industry seeks  to operate year                                                               
around, or  in the fall  and spring,  the need for  an icebreaker                                                               
with USCGC  Polar Sea capability  is more necessary.   Operations                                                               
deep  in the  winter season,  such as  exploration in  the Bering                                                               
Strait, would be beyond the capability of the USCGC Healy.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. BRIGHAM,  in response to  Representative Lynn,  estimated the                                                               
time needed to build an icebreaker  is eight to ten years, due to                                                               
the budget process in Washington, D.C.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  supported Dr. Brigham's  recommendation on                                                               
protocol.    Regarding the  resolve  on  leasing, he  offered  to                                                               
address Dr. Brigham's concerns during  the hearing process on the                                                               
resolution.  He then asked  whether the USCGC Polar Star's return                                                               
to service  and its  projected length of  service is  accurate in                                                               
the resolution.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BRIGHAM indicated  yes.   The  challenge  is to  appropriate                                                               
sufficient  funds to  keep the  ships running  in the  short run,                                                               
with  the hope  of funding  the acquisition  of a  new ship.   He                                                               
agreed that the costs are  extraordinary and a challenging budget                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  inquired whether  the action of  the USCGC                                                               
Healy  for the  community of  Nome, and  the fact  that China  is                                                               
building  another  world-class   icebreaker,  will  convince  the                                                               
administration and the Navy to invest in icebreakers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. BRIGHAM  opined these events  show the high readiness  of the                                                               
Coast Guard and  that it only lacks assets; it  has quality staff                                                               
and  readiness.   Other less  visible factors,  such as  offshore                                                               
development, require a  presence on the ice and  in the shallower                                                               
waters  around  Alaska.    He suggested  buoy  tenders  are  also                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:46:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON heard  the Navy has ordered  51 warships at                                                               
$500  million  each, and  he  suggested  that  one should  be  an                                                               
icebreaker.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BRIGHAM agreed  saying,  "Two  of them  could  equate to  an                                                               
icebreaker,  [of] course  that's not  necessarily how  Washington                                                               
works."   Because  the U.S.  has an  extraordinary investment  in                                                               
Antarctica,  he encouraged  investment in  America's presence  in                                                               
both  Polar   Regions  by  increasing  the   nation's  icebreaker                                                               
capability to support both Antarctica and the Arctic.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Although not  specifically stated,  public testimony  was closed                                                               
and HJR 34 was set aside and taken up later in the meeting.]                                                                    
          HJR 34-COAST GUARD ICEBREAKERS & ARCTIC BASE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:54:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMPSON announced that the committee would return its                                                                 
attention to HJR 34.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMPSON moved Amendment 1 which read:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           "COPIES of this resolution shall be sent to the                                                                    
     Honorable  Barack   Obama,  President  of   the  United                                                                    
     States;  the Honorable  Hillary Rodham  Clinton, United                                                                    
     States  Secretary   of  State;  the   Honorable  Sergey                                                                    
     Viktorovich Lavrov, Minister of  Foreign Affairs of the                                                                    
     Russian  Federation;  the   Honorable  Erkki  Tuomioja,                                                                    
     Minister for Foreign Affairs  of Finland; the Honorable                                                                    
     Carl  Bildt, Minister  for Foreign  Affairs of  Sweden;                                                                    
     the  Honorable Jonas  Gahr Støre,  Minister of  Foreign                                                                    
     Affairs of  Norway; the Honorable John  Baird, Minister                                                                    
     of  Foreign  Affairs  of Canada;  the  Honorable  Össur                                                                    
     Skarphéðinsson,  Minister   for  Foreign   Affairs  and                                                                    
     External   Trade  of   Iceland;  the   Honorable  Villy                                                                    
     Søvndal, Minister  for Foreign Affairs of  Denmark; the                                                                    
     Honorable  Admiral Robert  J. Papp,  Commandant, United                                                                    
     States Coast Guard; Ambassador  David A. Balton, Deputy                                                                    
     Assistant  Secretary for  Oceans and  Fisheries, United                                                                    
     States  Department of  State;  Rear  Admiral Thomas  F.                                                                    
     Ostebo,  Commander,  United  States  Seventeenth  Coast                                                                    
     Guard  District; the  Honorable Sean  Parnell, Governor                                                                    
     of  Alaska; the  Honorable  Mead Treadwell,  Lieutenant                                                                    
     Governor of  Alaska; the  Honorable Lisa  Murkowski and                                                                    
     the  Honorable  Mark  Begich, U.S.  Senators,  and  the                                                                    
     Honorable  Don Young,  U.S. Representative,  members of                                                                    
     the  Alaska  delegation  in  Congress;  and  all  other                                                                    
     members of the 112th United States Congress."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:55:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMPSON said the amendment is in response to Dr.                                                                      
Brigham's testimony recommending a change in procedure to follow                                                                
proper protocol on who receives the resolution.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:55:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN removed his objection.  There being no                                                                      
further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:55:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN moved to report  HJR 34, Version 27-LS1303\A,                                                               
as amended, out of committee  with individual recommendations and                                                               
the accompanying fiscal  notes.  There being  no objection, CSHJR
34(MLV)  was  reported out  of  the  House Special  Committee  on                                                               
Military and Veterans' Affairs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
1-HJR034A- Bill.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
2- HJR 34 - USCG Icebreakers Arctic Base - Sponsor Statement.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
3- HJR 34 - 12 01 11-LG Treadwell on Icebreakers.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
4- HJR 34 - 2010 USCG Auth Act - AMSA Section.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
5- HJR 34 - ANWTF Recs PP 14-21.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
2- HB 316 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
3-HB316 Sectional Analysis.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
6- HJR 34 - Foreign Minister Amendment.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
4- HB316-Fiscal Note- DCCED-AIDEA-02-10-12.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
7- HJR 34 - Ltr from Lawson Brigham.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
8- HJR 34 Leg Coun-Fiscal Note.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 3/22/2012 9:00:00 AM
HJR 34
5- HB316-Fiscal Note-DMVA-MVA-CO-02-13-12.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
6- HB316-Fiscal Note-DOR-AHFC-02-10-12.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
1- HB0316 ver I- Bill.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
Saddler testimony HB 316.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 316
9- CSHJR34 (MLV) ver. M.pdf HMLV 2/16/2012 1:00:00 PM
HJR 34